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		<title>By: &#34;The Library&#34; and Other Grand Unifications</title>
		<link>http://stevelawson.name/seealso/archives/2009/04/making_a_statement.html/comment-page-1#comment-93629</link>
		<dc:creator>&#34;The Library&#34; and Other Grand Unifications</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 20:40:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] and what makes sense to you. I don&#8217;t fully understand my own stance at the moment, but like Steve, I know which conversation I want to be having.  This entry was posted in libraries and librarians. [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and what makes sense to you. I don&#8217;t fully understand my own stance at the moment, but like Steve, I know which conversation I want to be having.  This entry was posted in libraries and librarians. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: A Conversation with Kristin Antelman &#124; In the Library with the Lead Pipe</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Conversation with Kristin Antelman &#124; In the Library with the Lead Pipe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 11:06:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] (Confessions of a Science Librarian); Meredith Farkas (Information Wants To Be Free); Steve Lawson (See Also&#8230;); Dorothea Salo (Caveat Lector); and Roy Tennant (Library Journal Digital Libraries). [&#8617;]The [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] (Confessions of a Science Librarian); Meredith Farkas (Information Wants To Be Free); Steve Lawson (See Also&#8230;); Dorothea Salo (Caveat Lector); and Roy Tennant (Library Journal Digital Libraries). [&#8617;]The [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Lawson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Lawson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 22:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim, the Word doc on John&#039;s site doesn&#039;t bother me because there is also the blog post to link to and read online. Taiga doesn&#039;t give you that option.

I don&#039;t mind &quot;the Library&quot; because I think it helps distinguish the concept of the library from the individual libraries where we work and read.

I don&#039;t mind &quot;negativity.&quot; But I feel like the Darien statements provide a framework for discussing what is valuable about libraries (or &quot;the Library&quot;) in almost any imaginable future. It&#039;s not as memorable and elegant as Ranganathan&#039;s Laws, but I admire the attempt at universality. With Taiga, I honestly don&#039;t know what to do with a list of unsupported dystopic pronouncements. They feel a little like trolling, where to engage them at all is to lose. I don&#039;t know. I could be wrong. I could easily be overreacting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim, the Word doc on John&#8217;s site doesn&#8217;t bother me because there is also the blog post to link to and read online. Taiga doesn&#8217;t give you that option.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t mind &#8220;the Library&#8221; because I think it helps distinguish the concept of the library from the individual libraries where we work and read.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t mind &#8220;negativity.&#8221; But I feel like the Darien statements provide a framework for discussing what is valuable about libraries (or &#8220;the Library&#8221;) in almost any imaginable future. It&#8217;s not as memorable and elegant as Ranganathan&#8217;s Laws, but I admire the attempt at universality. With Taiga, I honestly don&#8217;t know what to do with a list of unsupported dystopic pronouncements. They feel a little like trolling, where to engage them at all is to lose. I don&#8217;t know. I could be wrong. I could easily be overreacting.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 16:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think both overreach, so I&#039;m not defending the Taiga statements per se. But &quot;I don&#039;t like negativity&quot; and &quot;I don&#039;t want to talk about it&quot; aren&#039;t arguments. 

Frankly, I find much to criticize in both. Since you opened the door to style &quot;this is the group of futurists .. and all their stuff in PDF right,&quot; and leaving aside the Word docs of the Darien Statements, doesn&#039;t the whole &quot;the Library&quot;—capitalized every time—irritate you? &quot;The purpose of the Library is to preserve the integrity of civilization.&quot; That may not provoke librarians, but you can bet many outsiders look at that and think &quot;overblown Victorianism in the service of an exaggerated sense of self.&quot; The Taiga statements are gloomy, but the Darien ones are pious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think both overreach, so I&#8217;m not defending the Taiga statements per se. But &#8220;I don&#8217;t like negativity&#8221; and &#8220;I don&#8217;t want to talk about it&#8221; aren&#8217;t arguments. </p>
<p>Frankly, I find much to criticize in both. Since you opened the door to style &#8220;this is the group of futurists .. and all their stuff in PDF right,&#8221; and leaving aside the Word docs of the Darien Statements, doesn&#8217;t the whole &#8220;the Library&#8221;—capitalized every time—irritate you? &#8220;The purpose of the Library is to preserve the integrity of civilization.&#8221; That may not provoke librarians, but you can bet many outsiders look at that and think &#8220;overblown Victorianism in the service of an exaggerated sense of self.&#8221; The Taiga statements are gloomy, but the Darien ones are pious.</p>
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		<title>By: The future of libraries &#171; Suelibrarian</title>
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		<dc:creator>The future of libraries &#171; Suelibrarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 02:55:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] get me wrong. My reaction is positive. I am just a bit disappointed by the lack of discussion. Steve Lawson and Dorothea and a few others have pointed to the post. Unfortunately Friendfeed and Twitter trends [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] get me wrong. My reaction is positive. I am just a bit disappointed by the lack of discussion. Steve Lawson and Dorothea and a few others have pointed to the post. Unfortunately Friendfeed and Twitter trends [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jenica Rogers-Urbanek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jenica Rogers-Urbanek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 18:21:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, I get an idiotic grin every time I see that my friends and colleagues are so publicly proud of me.  Thank you!  (Sincerely, Madame Director.)

Second, I could not agree with you more.  Taiga&#039;s pumped enough negativity into the discussion sphere already. I&#039;d rather look forward with hope and optimism, and dedicate my available energy to being a proponent of the parts of our work that truly matter -- to us, to our users, to the world.  And the Darien document is a far better conversation-starter to that end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, I get an idiotic grin every time I see that my friends and colleagues are so publicly proud of me.  Thank you!  (Sincerely, Madame Director.)</p>
<p>Second, I could not agree with you more.  Taiga&#8217;s pumped enough negativity into the discussion sphere already. I&#8217;d rather look forward with hope and optimism, and dedicate my available energy to being a proponent of the parts of our work that truly matter &#8212; to us, to our users, to the world.  And the Darien document is a far better conversation-starter to that end.</p>
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		<title>By: Iris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Iris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 18:07:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hear hear! I love it that I feel like I have to read the Darien statements at least one more time, carefully, before discussing them. I love it that they&#039;re cast as thought-provoking rather than fear-provoking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hear hear! I love it that I feel like I have to read the Darien statements at least one more time, carefully, before discussing them. I love it that they&#8217;re cast as thought-provoking rather than fear-provoking.</p>
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